Tuesday, 2 February 2010

"Thar she blows"











hopefull not! As the container is soda glass, but will you just look at the hydrogen/oxygen streaming off the cells, and thats without a voltage intensifier circuit yet (which is my next project, as I have to build one! When I can work out what the required components and their values are) It has to be remembered that the large electric motor is there only to simulate a 2000 c.c. engine in a vehicle and that I am actually driving the cell, off a 12v battery by converting the 12 volts dc from DC to 60v ac before pumping it into the cells. I`m actually only using milliamps, in fact the battery still has 12.8 volts in it and I have run this set-up for over 12 hours to condition the cells so far, without re-charging it at all. So I must be doing something right. I don`t suppose anybody out there knows of a phsyisist or an electronics engineer that might be able to help with the encription of the Voltage intensifier circuit. I have a drawing, but no expertese in understanding what it means! Doh.
As with all my posts the photos are in reverse order DOH!!!! i.e. top one last and bottom one first! so here you see the fourth photo and the two previous ones taken within about three seconds of powering up the modified alternator, with the first being my Meyer setup before I changed the dialectric water for the first time (I have to change it a few more times as yet, as part of the conditioning of the cell configuration ) the Hydrogen/Oxygen production increases every time I do this, but it will only rise so far, until I reach the optimum amount, for that value cell configuration. Then I need the V.I.C and other bits so as to obtain "resonance" at which point I have cracked it!!!!!!!! and then I am nearly on the bottom rung of the ladder to running a vehicle (Boat) on water alone.

10 comments:

Marcus MacGregor said...

My friend Tana sent me you link. I must say that I'm impressed, I've always wanted to do some electrolysis of water to hydrogen. I know a fair amount about physics (I am writing a book about how they are wrong actually) If you need something deciphered I can give it a shot, though it is not my specialty I think I can remember enough of 2nd year EE to be able to crack it.

BTW. Be careful, "thar she blows" is a distinct possibility

Marcus MacGregor said...

Oh,also be aware that the water is effectively a Leyden jar (first battery), and will carry a charge. So don't shock yourself.

rob said...

Hi Marcus! I`m not sure how I can get the details of the rather sparse drawing to you?
I am an apprenticeship served Carpenter and Joiner (45 years ago) so you can see why I need some help :o)), thanks for your offer which I would love to take you up on.
What I am achieving is a little bit different to straight electrolysis in as much as the water molecule is being disected with the use of a "resonant cavity" between two plates, bringing it to a point of catastrophic collapse, where it releases its covalent bond and is parted into its component parts. And as you know any worthwhile electrolysis takes many Amps to do what I`m achieving and I`m only using milliamps. The next part of my project is to multiply the 40v ac voltage to the resonant cavity to increase the gas production and achieve and retain resonance in the cell which is of course acting as a capacitor the water being the dialectic. the water is pure water from a spring with no electrolyte,
Thanks for the warning when I peer deeply into the jar looking at the size of the bubbles I think of the explosion possibility and am even more resolved to be carefull :o((

Marcus MacGregor said...

Wow, no electrolytes and milliamps, you shouldn't be getting anything. It is my opinion that real physics is not honestly shared with the public so getting a result that defies convention does not surprise me. It is difficult to say what is causing the process to work without seeing it directly.

By resonant cavity between two plates do you mean a off the shelf capacitor? You may be tapping into the Casimir effect which would be exciting. Alternately, you may be achieving energy through sonoluminescence. It should also be noted that the Fleishmann- Pons cold fusion experiment started by doing an electrolysis experiment. The real interest is whether or not you are getting over-unity energy return. Personally I recommend trying different cavity shapes just to see what happens as well as getting a ballpark estimate of energy in vs. energy out.

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rob said...

Hi Marcus Doh!!!! you have confused me :o)) I know that MIT have cold fusion but won`t release it! as a couple of english guys (Professor Pons and someone else developed it) I need to create a plasma spark for my spark plugs too so the fuel doesn`t snuffle them out or they dont get dampened by the action and will ignite it OK.

rob said...

Ah the casimir effect! I remember that is what happens between my plates (in the form of two/8 conductive tubes with a .020" gap between them) pos and neg at 40v ac via a P.W.M pulse width modifier. according to the perameters of Casimir I will only get integers of half waves between the plates which as yet I haven`t measured the frequency between them as I don`t have any scope leads yet! I will however jury rig it and see. As for over unity I will never get that with this system as the 2 hp motor will take the majority of power but used in a vehicle (which is running anyway as a secondary alternator) there shouldn`t be a problem? when I can poroduce resonance????? in the cells. There is much talk about having the individual parts of the cells cusioned so thet they can Vibrate (resonate) freely I don`t understand what electronic resonance is? is it in the water or between the plates or in the plates themselves for example if the two plates were securely fixed togeather would the/could the whole cell resonate as one with the same effect?

Liz said...

See Orb, I do come here.
And You think You're confused !!!!
I can read and understand Japanese much easier and better than all this.
It all seems VERY interesting though....can't wait to be able to drive my first Orbmobile.
TeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeeee
Mata ne
Liz

rob said...

Ha Haaaaa, Hi Liz! Thanks for your visit you are always welcome. I don`t understand it either if I did I wouldn`t have been three years struggling :o(( anyway the boating season starts tomorrow for me and I guess I should put it all away (maybe) we`ll see :-))I`m at a sort of turning point-ish I now have something for my labours, not much but something, Ill get bored Im sure I usually do ;o((

rob said...

My pleasure Janys I have a friend who manufactures and sell thousands of the sort of pods you mentioned and on occasions I have got him out of a hole with the odd strip out and replace etc so I am speaking from some experience. Also the macerators used in a domestic situation arent any good long-term, for the marine use. :o))